In Brief: The Race for Geopolitical Influence (with Jared Cohen)

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🗓️ 3 July 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Jared Cohen is a foreign policy expert who served as a member of the State Department’s Policy Planning staff under both Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton. He currently serves as the President of Global Affairs at Goldman Sachs. Cohen joins Preet to discuss his recent article, “The Rise of Geopolitical Swing States,” and how the US and China will compete to shape geopolitics in the years to come. References & Supplemental Materials: Jared Cohen, “The Rise of Geopolitical Swing States,” Goldman Sachs, 5/15/23 Stay Tuned in Brief is presented by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Please write to us with your thoughts and questions at letters@cafe.com, or leave a voicemail at 669-247-7338. For analysis of recent legal news, try the CAFE Insider membership for just $1 for one month: cafe.com/insider. Check out other CAFE shows Now & Then and Up Against the Mob. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.0	From Cafe in the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is Stay Tuned in Brief.
0:39.0	I'm Preet Bharara.
0:41.0	Today, we're going to talk about swing states.
0:44.0	No, not Arizona, Georgia, or Michigan, all critical to the upcoming US election in 2024,
0:49.0	but rather geopolitical swing states.
0:52.0	These are nations critical to the ongoing tug of war between the US and China for global leadership.
0:58.0	Countries including Vietnam, Brazil, and India are being heavily courted by Washington and Beijing.
1:05.0	What can we learn from these geopolitical swing states and why are they important?
1:09.0	My guest this week, Jared Cohen, is president of Global Affairs and co-head of the Office of Applied Innovation at Goldman Sachs,
1:16.0	which I should mention is a client of my law firm.
1:19.0	He was previously Google's first director of ideas and chief advisor to the company's CEO.
1:25.0	Jared's latest article is titled The Rise of Geopolitical Swing States.
1:29.0	Jared Cohen, welcome back to the show.
1:31.0	Thank you, Preet. It's great to be here.
1:33.0	So let's get right into your articles.
1:35.0	I think it's very interesting.
1:36.0	You say on page two, speaking of the US and China, you say, quote,
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