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Stay Tuned with Preet

Hocus SCOTUS (with Kate Shaw)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 July 2023

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Few people understand the Supreme Court better than Kate Shaw. She’s a professor of constitutional law at the Cardozo School of Law, an ABC legal analyst, and a co-host of the Strict Scrutiny podcast. She joins Preet to discuss the Court’s recent controversial decisions on affirmative action, LGBTQ rights, and student loan forgiveness. Plus, what’s on the docket next term.  Don’t miss the Insider bonus, where Preet and Shaw discuss the opinion in Moore v. Harper. The Court rejected the controversial Independent State Legislature Theory, but Shaw argues that the Court may have left the door open to reviving the applicability of the theory under different circumstances. To listen, become a member of CAFE Insider. Head to cafe.com/insider and use the special discount code JUSTICE to get 40% off the initial annual membership price. Offer valid through the end of July 2023. For show notes and a transcript of the episode head to: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/hocus-scotus-with-kate-shaw/  Tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with the hashtag #AskPreet, email us your questions and comments at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the VOX Media Podcast Network, welcome to Stay Tuned.

0:06.0

I'm Pete Barara.

0:08.0

I think it just illustrates the futility of trying to say we're going to try to erase the salience of race.

0:14.0

It can't be done. And by allowing some consideration of race in this context, the court has just I think suggested

0:21.0

well, there'll be some shifts required on the part of both students and admissions offices, but we can't make race not salient.

0:35.0

That's Kate Shaw. She's a constitutional law professor at the Cardozo School of Law in New York City.

0:41.0

She's also a co-host of Strix Crutiny, a legal podcast focused on analyzing the Supreme Court's cases and culture.

0:48.0

The Supreme Court wrapped up its term last week with a handful of consequential decisions, including on affirmative action, free speech, and student loans.

0:56.0

So there's a lot to unpack.

0:58.0

What will college admissions look like without race-based affirmative action?

1:02.0

What are the limits on laws protecting the rights of LGBTQ people? And what's the extent of executive power?

1:08.0

I discuss all of this and more with Kate Shaw.

1:11.0

And just as a note, I got a ton of questions from you folks about these decisions.

1:15.0

So instead of answering them myself in our typical Q&A, I figured I'd ask the Supreme Court expert.

1:20.0

That's coming up. Stay tuned.

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