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BiggerPockets Money Podcast

If We Started FIRE Over in 2025, Here's Exactly What We'd Do

BiggerPockets Money Podcast

BiggerPockets

Education, Investing, Business

4.5 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

What would you do differently if you could start your FIRE journey over today? Back in 2013, Scott was fresh out of college house hacking his way to financial independence, while Mindy and her husband were deep into their FIRE journey documenting it all on their blog. Fast forward to 2025—both are financially independent, but if they were starting from scratch today, they'd make some serious changes. Welcome to the BiggerPockets Money Podcast! In this episode, Scott and Mindy reveal what they'd do differently starting their FI journey in 2025. The fundamentals still work—frugality, saving, investing—but the tactical strategies? Those have evolved dramatically. In this episode, we cover: The real estate strategies Scott would prioritize in today's market Stock investments and portfolio allocation for 2025 How AI and technology are reshaping the path to FI The biggest regrets—including times they wish they'd spent MORE What still works from 2013 vs. what's completely outdated Lifestyle changes they'd make earlier in the journey Updated timelines and expectations for achieving FIRE today Whether you're just starting out or already on track to financial independence, this episode gives you a fresh roadmap for building wealth in today's world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hindsight really is 2020. Today, Scott and I are going to look back at how we both would

0:04.6

adjust our retirement planning if we had to start all over today, both at our current ages

0:10.5

and if we were 23. Spoiler, we might have done things a little differently.

0:23.9

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Bigger Pockets Money podcast.

0:29.4

My name is Mindy Jensen, and with me as always is my probably would change some things co-hosts, Scott Trench.

0:30.1

Thanks, Minnie.

0:34.0

I look forward to looking back today here on Bigger Pockets Money Podcasts with you.

0:36.1

I'm super excited about this episode.

0:38.3

This is just a fun kind of what if scenario.

0:42.0

I think there will be a couple of what ifs, like what was our journey like? Will we have changed anything in our journeys? And then how would we approach it if we were starting over today?

0:46.2

And I think that'll be a fun discussion here. So Mindy, can you give us the quick 60 second overview,

0:51.5

perhaps of your journey to fire for folks who may not be familiar with it?

0:55.3

So my husband and I started investing in the late 90s, basically because we're saving for

1:01.8

retirement. He worked in tech. So our portfolio has always been tech heavy, like up-and-coming

1:08.2

tech-heavy stocks. We were also living flipping. So that's when

1:12.1

you move into a house that is unattractive and you make it really beautiful and updated. And

1:17.3

then you sell it. You have to live there for two of the last five years in order to pay

1:21.4

$0 in capital gains taxes. So that is also what we did. I became a real estate agent in 2014 to help us find these properties.

1:29.8

I had no intention of being a real estate agent, but then I started helping friends,

1:33.3

and then I started helping friends of friends.

1:35.3

And real estate agents make a lot of money.

1:38.3

This is a really great and fun for me way to generate a lot of income.

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