Hey everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. I'm excited for today's guest, Joanna O'Brien. She was

married for over three decades. She was a stay-at-home mom, a mom of five. She was dedicated to

her family, her husband, her faith, her life. But beneath all of that, she was really living

an absolute nightmare between the gaslighting, emotional abuse, and honestly, a devastating financial

betrayal dealing with affairs, cheating. This was a huge loss where she even lost her family home.

And now in her 50s, Joanna is navigating the raw reality of rebuilding her life and

finding her identity from scratch and starting all over like so many of us have to do.

We're going to talk about a lot of the things that have helped her to rebuild.

And this is an important conversation because when we all go through these experiences,

really painful breakups, really difficult divorces. There's a rebuilding phase that needs to happen

more so later on in life when there's no distractions anymore. And now it's just you and learning

who you are again from maybe for the very first time and having to really rebuild yourself.

So I want to thank Joanna for being brave, taking the time and doing this podcast with me. So I hope you

enjoy. Joanna, thank you for joining me. I'm excited to have a chat. We were just literally

going off on a tangent, you guys. And I was like, okay, we need to actually really start this

podcast because we were having about, we're about to go into a really good combo there.

And we were talking about the importance of, I guess,

talking to each other. You know, that is one of the good things with social media and the

internet and stuff like that nowadays. If this would have been 30 years ago, you would have

really felt alone that you were going through this. And divorce, I mean, hell, even maybe 40 years

ago, maybe divorce wasn't as common as it is unfortunately nowadays but

it's not even the divorce it's what when what happened in the relationship right so and i was telling

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