ICE Out of Control

Stay Tuned with Preet

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4.8 • 32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 14 minutes

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If the people with oversight over federal agents won’t hold them accountable, what’s left for the public to do when an innocent person is killed in plain sight…and the government lies about what happened? In an excerpt from this week’s Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti by border patrol agents in Minnesota and where we go from here. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce break down a leaked secret internal ICE memo authorizing ICE agents to enter people’s homes without a judicial warrant. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; CAFE Team: Celine Rohr, Nat Weiner, Jennifer Indig, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey folks, Preet here.
0:03.1	Joyce Vance and I are out with a new episode of The Insider podcast.
0:06.7	We discussed the fatal shooting of Alex Preti by Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis and its aftermath.
0:12.7	Then we also break down a secret ICE memo authorizing agents to enter homes without a judge's warrant.
0:18.4	If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider feed
0:22.4	or click the link in the show notes of this podcast to hear the full analysis.
0:26.9	Stay tuned, listeners.
0:28.3	Stick around for an excerpt from our conversation.
0:31.4	Members of Insider help support our work and get access to full episodes
0:35.5	and other subscriber benefits.
0:37.5	We are living in unreasonable times. So join our community. and get access to full episodes and other subscriber benefits.
0:42.9	We are living in unreasonable times, so join our community of reasonable voices.
0:48.0	Head to cafe.com slash insider or stay tuned.substack.com.
0:49.5	Now on to the show.
1:02.2	We have a lot to talk about virtually all of it having to do with Minnesota, and the most recent killing by an ICE agent caught on camera.
1:04.4	Can we talk about what we think happened?
1:05.4	And I don't know.
1:07.0	We're speculating, but it's been a few days.
1:13.9	Because as you have said, and I agree, inexcusable, I don't see what other evidence could come to light that would exonerate these folks. But they're not trained, I don't
1:20.2	know these particular agents, but there is a fundamental lack of training, the hypocrisy of Pete
1:27.0	Hexeth and others who complain about, you know,
1:31.1	a woke Department of Defense or Department of War, whatever you want to call it,
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