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Stay Tuned with Preet

Is Minnesota Trump’s Waterloo? (with Ed Luce)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Financial Times U.S. national editor and columnist Ed Luce joins Preet Bharara to discuss the aftermath of the deadly shooting of Alex Pretti by border patrol agents and why this might be an inflection point for Trump. Preet and Ed also make sense of the cowardice on the part of leaders and institutions in standing up to Trump and what it will take for them to speak out publicly against the president. Then, Preet answers your questions about a leaked ICE memo claiming agents can enter a target’s home without a warrant and whether a Canadian could become president if Canada became the 51st state. In the bonus for Insiders, Ed and Preet discuss why we might be living in, what Ed calls, the mother of all teachable moments. Join the CAFE Insider community to stay informed without hysteria, fear-mongering, or rage-baiting. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Shop Stay Tuned merch and featured books by our guests in our Amazon storefront. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.

0:10.1

I'm Preet Bharara.

0:12.9

The Trump always chickens out thing works when he meets a force he cannot overwhelm.

0:18.8

You cannot overwhelm.

0:20.5

70 to 75% of America seeing these videos,

0:23.7

hearing blood-turdling justifications for the execution of the kind of American you know

0:29.5

would be shoveling the steps outside your house. That's Ed Luce. He's the U.S. national editor and a columnist at the Financial Times, where he writes about U.S. politics, foreign policy, and all things Trump.

0:44.9

He joins me to discuss the fatal shooting of another U.S. citizen in Minneapolis at the hands of federal agents,

0:50.5

and why this moment could prove to be an inflection point for the Trump administration.

0:55.1

We also discuss the broader pattern of the capitulation on the part of leaders and institutions

0:59.0

in what it will take for more of them to speak out publicly against the president.

1:03.5

At the end of the episode, I answer your questions about a leaked ICE memo claiming agents can enter a target's home without a warrant

1:09.6

and a far-fetched hypothetical about Canada,

1:12.2

becoming a 51st state, and more. That's coming up. Stay tuned.

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