ICE Meltdown
The TPM Show with Josh and Kate
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🗓️ 18 February 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Kate and Josh discuss spox Tricia McLaughlin's departure from DHS and more drama in the Texas Senate primary.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Josh Marshall, and this is the Josh Marshall podcast featuring Kate Riga. |
| 0:23.9 | We're going to talk about a few different topics today. |
| 0:26.4 | They all kind of center around a similar central topic. |
| 0:30.1 | And before we started recording the episode today, I was looking at an Axios update. |
| 0:36.6 | And, you know, Axios has various problems as a source |
| 0:40.1 | of political news. But one of the things that's interesting about it is that you can kind of see it |
| 0:44.0 | as a sign of when something has broken through into, you know, kind of DC consensus opinion. |
| 0:51.4 | It's actually quite valuable for that. And there's a new poll out commissioned by |
| 0:56.7 | the economist. And the headline that Axios used is that almost half of Americans would |
| 1:05.0 | describe Trump as racist, cruel, or corrupt as the sort of, you know, when they do like a word cloud, what is it |
| 1:13.5 | about Trump? And those are not positive evaluations. And as we've seen kind of across the |
| 1:21.1 | polling environment, Trump's public approval continues to go down. I was kind of scanning the |
| 1:27.0 | different approval averages |
| 1:29.5 | today and Nate Silvers, which is tended to be a little higher than others is, I don't know, |
| 1:37.7 | like 41% or 40% or something like that. And the one that Eliot Morris does, G. Eliot Morris |
| 1:43.6 | is down at like 37% or 38%. So he |
| 1:47.8 | continues to get less popular. And one of the interesting things about the present moment is that we're |
| 1:55.6 | very much in full steam ahead mode. I mean, you know, Trump is not a course corrector, right? But still, there's his own |
| 2:03.6 | kinds of course corrections that Trump does, because if Trump is more than an ideologue, he is |
| 2:10.7 | someone who craves affection and is solicitous of his own power. And public support are key to both of those things. |
| 2:20.3 | So the things we're going to talk about today, I think circle around that basic dynamic |
| 2:27.3 | that Trump is not sure the bottom is quite falling out in his public support, although |
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