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The Good Fight

Ian Bremmer on the Geopolitical Recession

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2022

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Ian Bremmer, a renowned political scientist, is President and Founder of the Eurasia Group and GZERO Media. His latest book is The Power of Crisis: How Three Threats—and Our Response—Will Change the World. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Ian Bremmer discuss why Russia’s war on Ukraine has become more difficult to follow, the opportunities that crises offer for global cooperation, and how today's problems are shaping the institutions of tomorrow. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Economist provides independent journalism for independent thinking and has been

0:05.1

championing progress for almost 200 years.

0:08.3

With the Economist, you gain access to fact-based, deeply researched expert analysis of world events and topics

0:14.3

ranging from business and culture to politics, science and technology.

0:18.2

Tune into the global conversation with reporting from correspondence around the world available in-app online through

0:25.0

podcasts and print so for fact sake search the economist.

0:31.6

We need to use these crises. This is our shot to get out of the G0 and geopolitical recession.

0:39.0

There are these three big global crises that are in front of us right now.

0:43.4

Pandemic largely wasted.

0:46.0

Climate, largely taking advantage of it.

0:49.4

AI and disruptive technologies?

0:51.8

Still too soon to tell, but we better get our act together now.

0:56.2

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

1:01.2

For the last week's I have been talking you through part two of the great experiment

1:09.8

setting out the vision for the kind of diverse democracy that we should aim for.

1:16.4

Defending the basic philosophically liberal principles that I think can structure such a society from how to think about the relationship between the individual, the group and the state to the kind of metaphor which would govern the extent of integration or assimilation to a defense of inclusive patriotism based on civic values as well as everyday cultural patriotism.

1:44.0

In the last part of my book and the last part of the great experiment,

1:50.0

I make the case for why there is reason to think that we can actually build such a diverse democracy and how we are able to get there. So I will talk about that today and then for two more weeks.

2:08.0

The chapter I talk about today, chapter 8 is called reasons for optimism and before I get to the

2:15.5

substantive reasons for optimism I think it's important to discuss why a kind of

2:21.1

fashionable pessimism can lead us astray.

2:26.7

A lot of people like to point out the things that are going wrong in the world.

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