Do the Politics of Class and Race Stand in Tension?

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.7 • 963 Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Olúfẹmi Táíwò is a philosopher and an Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Georgetown University. He is the author of Reconsidering Reparations, and his latest book is Elite Capture: How the Powerful Took Over Identity Politics (And Everything Else). In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Olúfẹmi Táíwò discuss the difference between identifying the wrongs of the past and charting a road for progress, why we shouldn’t shy away from pursuing difficult political goals, and how we can better build movements around shared interests. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	At Barclays, we're here for the land of football.
0:06.4	We're here for the Premier League,
0:09.0	and the Barclays Women's Super League.
0:12.1	We're here for the football chance for giving more girls a chance.
0:18.0	We're here for the grassroots and all the muddy boots. From schools to stadiums, we're here for it all.
0:25.0	Barclay's here for the land of football.
0:30.0	If you're looking at what our world is like, how it decides who to make predator and who to make prey,
0:37.0	there just are more things going on than class.
0:40.0	It's just true.
0:41.0	It might nevertheless be true that if you give a bunch of people money that people will be able to
0:46.7	organize and defend their own interests in a way that responds to the fact that there is a racially stratified political system.
0:56.8	That might be true.
0:58.2	I don't know whether it's true or it's not, but I would love for us to try it and find
1:02.0	out.
1:02.8	But you could believe that without believing
1:05.5	the class reductionist thing about what the social problems are
1:08.3	in the first place.
1:10.0	And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.
1:12.6	There is virtually nothing on which liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans can agree on these days in the United States.
1:28.0	Except for one very ambitious, very far-reaching thesis about the social world.
1:38.0	This thesis has two parts. The first is that America will be majority minority by around 2045 as the United States
1:49.6	Census Bureau has long projected.
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