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I tried Zuckerberg's $800 Ray-Bans. Are they the future? With Alex Heath

Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business News, News, Tv & Film, Technology

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

A year ago I got try a pair of $10,000 computer goggles from Meta. The tech was super-impressive, but you couldn’t buy them them. You still can’t. Now Mark Zuckerberg is trying a similar idea. But this time around the the tech is scaled-down, lighter and way cheaper: the new version costs $800, and you’ll be able to buy them in a couple days. Why would you want to wear a computer on your face - no matter how much it costs and how much they weigh? And why do all the big tech companies keep trying to make this happen? I have some ideas, but Alex Heath is deeply sourced on this stuff, so asked him. Up until this week, Alex was a star tech reporter at The Verge. Now he’s off on his own, with Access (a podcast) and Sources (a Substack). He’s kicking off his foray into indie media with a long interview with Zuckerberg, so we used that as a jumping off point to talk about Zuckerberg’s political shift, his AI obsession, and his big bet on wearable tech. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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from the vox media podcast network it's channels with Peter Kafka.

1:13.6

That is me.

1:14.3

I'm also chief correspondent at Business Insider.

1:17.9

Today's show comes to you from Silicon Valley, where I'm spending a few days and where AI is obviously everywhere.

1:25.5

I'm recording this episode shortly after trying on Mark Zuckerberg's newest creation.

1:30.5

It's a face computer you can actually buy.

1:33.4

They are a souped up version of the meta-rayband glasses.

1:37.0

He's been selling for a few years now.

1:39.1

And the big difference is that these things have a display on the right screen

1:43.3

so you can be looking at something in real life and also read a text message or look at a map or whatever at the same time.

1:50.0

They're going to start at $800.

1:53.0

Whether people want to buy these things and why meta is making them at all is part of the discussion I'm having today with Alex Heath, who until very

2:01.9

recently was the Virges Star Tech Reporter. As we discussed today, he's now going off on his own.

2:07.6

You'll be able to hear and watch him at Access, his video and audio podcast, and read him

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