I Read FBI's Wild Epstein and Andrew Files: Author

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🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Andrew Lownie joins Joanna Coles to examine wild new reporting that Jeffrey Epstein tried to hire a British sniper to kill Prince Andrew — a story now echoed by two separate sources. Joanna presses into the fever-dream paranoia that surrounded Epstein in his final years and the ripple effects now hitting the palace. Lownie, author of the bombshell book ‘Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York,’ explains why, if true, this plot reframes Epstein’s reach and the danger surrounding everyone in his orbit. And Joanna ends by asking the blunt question lingering under all of it: what else was Epstein willing to do that we still don’t know?

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0:00.0	Trump and Epstein, though they've broken contact, that Epstein was making threats to expose Trump.
0:08.3	Trump was concerned about that.
0:09.9	Epstein thought he might be given a pardon protected by Trump.
0:12.9	And that might explain the story of Epstein's death.
0:17.9	I'm Joanna Coles. This is the Daily Beast podcast. And today we are talking to the British historian Andrew Loney, whose remarkable book entitled The Rise and the Fall of the House of Yorks really began the unraveling of Andrew, formerly known as Prince Andrew.
0:37.1	Now, Andrew Loney has, because he's been inundated with new
0:40.7	information, started a substack. I signed up to it, and I urge you to, it's extremely compelling,
0:47.1	but he has two outrageous allegations this weekend that we're going to completely unpack.
1:12.3	And I have to say, when I read them, I couldn't quite believe them. I wasn't sure if they were true. They both involve, of course, Jeffrey Epstein. And we know that Jeffrey Epstein's friendship with Prince Andrew was part of the reason for Andrews fall from grace. Anyway, you don't need me to tell you about them.
1:16.9	We're going to talk to Andrew about them. And I don't think you're going to want to look away.
1:18.8	So let's get into it.
1:27.3	Andrew, I can't believe how much has happened since we last talked. And it was only, I think, three weeks ago. And you have,
1:29.6	in your new substack, to absolutely explosive allegations, which we are going to unpack. And when I say
1:39.4	explosive, they really are. We will get to them in a minute. But what I wanted you to do first was give us an update with where we are. We had some embarrassing emails of Prince Andrew coming out from the Epstein Trove emails that came out last week. But where is Prince Andrew right now? Has he left Royal Lodge? And what are the developments
2:04.0	since we last spoke when he just lost his title of Prince? Well, I mean, from what I'm hearing,
2:10.7	he doesn't seem too concerned. He feels he's a free man now. He's saying he's going to go on dating
2:15.9	apps. He's going to go on dating apps, really.
2:20.0	And, you know, he's still in Royal Lodge. They still haven't opened all the
2:23.6	present, all the parcels that Sir Ferguson ordered and hadn't opened herself.
2:28.2	So I think they're not going to go up to Sandringham until after the new year.
2:33.0	And clearly when all the royal family
2:34.5	have left. I'm not totally convinced he will go to Sandringham. I suspect that he may go somewhere else.
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