Why Trump Is Obsessed by Burning Evidence: Wolff

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🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to dig into the unresolved contradictions around Jeffrey Epstein’s death and the evidence that may have vanished with him. Wolff presses on the implausibility of both the official story and the idea of a flawless cover-up, forcing Joanna to confront how a Trump-remade DOJ and FBI might handle “inconvenient” files. Together they explore whether possibly destroyed Polaroids, buried reports, or silenced insiders could really stay hidden—and what it means if they have.

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0:00.0	So let's just think, let's go and take a step back.
0:03.7	One of Trump's obsessions, a weird obsession, why didn't Nixon burn the tapes, dwells on it.
0:14.3	I mean, asking the question, what was that dummy doing?
0:18.9	What I would have done if I were there, I would have burned those tapes.
0:23.3	They were his tapes.
0:24.9	Why didn't he burn them?
0:26.6	The word burn, he repeats it again and again.
0:30.1	Right.
0:30.4	So destroying evidence.
0:32.2	So is it possible that they could destroy evidence and there would be a cover-up evidence in the Epstein files?
0:40.8	Yeah, of course.
0:41.8	If, for example, they'd taken the polaroids you'd seen and burned them, wouldn't there be someone
0:47.5	who would at some point report that to someone else?
0:50.8	You know, the nature of cover-ups. Do they unravel?
0:54.6	I mean, I would say the only thing that is distinctly different at this moment in time
1:00.0	is that the Justice Department has been remade.
1:02.8	The FBI has been remade.
1:04.3	The question is, have they remade it enough?
1:11.5	Michael. Joanna. Michael.
1:13.9	Joanna.
1:15.0	So I've slightly lost the plot in terms of where are we with the release of the Epstein files.
1:22.3	Trump says he released the cracker.
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