Hello, everybody. Welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it, how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact of the world with your art. I'm Jake Parker. I'm Lee White.

And I'm Will Terry, and all three of us are professional illustrators. We've all worked for all the major publishers in the business.

Together, we've published somewhere around 75 children's books and we've all taught illustration at university art programs. That's right. Each week we come at you guys with

fantastic illustrator interviews or awesome listener questions, maybe some just like you might have.

Sometimes we agree, sometimes we argue, but each time you learn something brand spanking new. Sometimes we tell stories too. Sometimes. I actually have a question from me.

I want to get your guys' feedback on this. Who's me?

I have a stack of comic books that I want to read.

I also have like five shows I want to watch.

Okay.

And sometimes it gets so overwhelming that when I have time to do it,

I can't decide what to start on, what to do.

So I ended up not doing anything. I end up just like

going to Instagram scrolling through there or going to YouTube, watching a bunch of videos I

don't care about. So do you guys do that? And if not, like, how do you manage your free time in a way

that it's, I hate to like bring productivity

into free time because I'm like, if I got to get work done, I've got systems in place.

I've got, you know, I'm super disciplined. I've got, you know, my most important task that I,

that I have an accountability partner with every day. But when it comes to free time, I don't do any of that because I'm worried I'm going to

turn my free time into work, but then I'm not getting anything good out of free time.

I mean, I think you answered your own question is you apply the same principles.

I mean, you're assigning a code to it like oh if I organize my free time

then it now becomes work right that's not true um you you have to kind of just plan in the same way

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