"I Don't Care What Your Goals Are": The Counterintuitive Coaching Method That Works
The Consistency Project
EC Synkowski
4.9 • 562 Ratings
🗓️ 10 September 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Alongside Spencer Nix from the Behavior & Performance Research Institute, we're discussing a counterintuitive coaching method that focuses on behavior change and the importance of motivational interviewing in fostering client relationships.
You'll gain insights into how to effectively engage with clients, leading to deeper transformations and lasting results.
After you listen, you'll understand that prioritizing the client's emotions over rigid goal-setting can significantly enhance the coaching experience.
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The Consistency Project aims to simplify nutrition, health, and well-being by breaking down the concepts and actions we can all take to live fuller, more functional lives.
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📍 EC Synkowski is a Certified Nutrition Specialist® (CNS), a Licensed-Dietitian Nutritionist (LDN), and Certified CrossFit Level 4 Coach (CF-L4). She's the founder of OptimizeMe Nutrition and the creator of the #800gChallenge®. Find her on social media.
📍 Patrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter, kid's book writer, and podcaster. Find him on social media.Full Disclaimer
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Consistency Project podcast. Every week here on the show, we simplify the |
| 0:04.7 | principles and practices of nutrition, health, and fitness that will help you perform better, |
| 0:09.0 | feel better, and of course, live better. Thank you so much for tuning into the show this week. |
| 0:13.2 | My name is Patrick. I'm here with a quick introduction. What we've got this week for you is a great |
| 0:18.0 | conversation that EC had recently with a man named Spencer |
| 0:21.4 | Nix. Spencer is a former CrossFit seminar staff member and affiliate owner. He was a competitive |
| 0:26.9 | bobsledder for Team USA, which is kind of amazing. I didn't talk about that, but I kind of wish they |
| 0:32.0 | did. And now he's the owner of the Behavior and Performance Research Institute. He's also got an |
| 0:37.3 | MS in neuroscience, |
| 0:38.8 | so he is a very impressive fella. Before we get into it, if you're interested in learning more |
| 0:44.7 | about or from Spencer, highly recommend you check out the Behavior and Performance Research Institute |
| 0:50.7 | at BPR. Institute. Again, that's BPR.com. The link is going to be in the show notes. |
| 0:57.0 | Do check out what he's up to. In this episode, you will hear EC and Spencer talk about why being a |
| 1:03.7 | fitness or nutrition expert isn't enough as a coach. They talk about motivational interviewing. |
| 1:09.2 | They talk about the minimum effective dose. They talk about Spencer's six territories of health, which is really interesting and a lot, lot more. So without any further ado, here is Spencer Nix and EC. Well, Spencer, thank you so much for joining the consistency project. It's my pleasure. Thank you for having me. It's really an honor to be here. Long time listener, first time guest. |
| 1:31.3 | Yeah, I'm glad we could get you on and talk about behavior change, which turns out I talk about that a lot. So to get your expertise is going to be great here. |
| 1:42.3 | One of the things I would love to know about first, though, is you've been around performance |
| 1:46.1 | and fitness for some time. |
| 1:49.2 | And as far as I understand, how you've kind of thought about coaching and helping your athletes |
| 1:54.3 | and clients has shifted over the years and now, especially with BPR, a little bit more |
| 1:59.0 | behavior first, if I could say? |
| 2:05.7 | Could you kind of describe why that came to be or how that came to be? |
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