This is The Guardian.

The Conservative Party took a terrible hammering

in last week's local elections,

but Rishi Sunak doesn't want to talk about that.

Instead, he's taking comfort in the idea

that Labour could still fall short

of an outright general election victory.

A strong but not decisive Labour performance

at the local elections, meanwhile,

has got people pondering the prospect

of a lab-lab coalition government.

But Kia Starma doesn't want to talk about that either.

This is a hypothetical question.

Well, so is the S&P one,

but you answer that directly

but you're equivocal on the Lib Dem.

It's a hypothetical question.

In a week where it feels as if the tectonic plates are shifting,

what's really going on behind the scenes of British politics?

I'm Gabby Hinsliff,

in for John Harris,

and you're listening to Politics Weekly UK for The Guardian.

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