More than a million NHS workers will get a 5% pay rise after health unions accepted a government offer. But the Royal College of Nursing has rejected the offer. The Guardian’s John Harris speaks to Pat Cullen, the general secretary of the RCN and Frances O’Grady, a Labour peer and former general secretary of the Trades Union Congress, about the future for public sector workers. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/politicspod