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Human Rights Abuses in Saudi Arabia with Joey Shea

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🗓️ 26 September 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

On August 21, the Human Rights Watch released a report detailing systematic abuses of Ethiopian migrants and asylum seekers at the Saudi Arabia-Yemen border. Researchers interviewed dozens of Ethiopian migrants and asylum seekers and found that Saudi border guards had used explosive weapons on them and shot migrants at close range. 

Lawfare’s Associate Editor of Communications Anna Hickey sat down with Joey Shea, a researcher in the Middle East and North Africa Division of Human Rights Watch who investigates human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. They discussed the Human Rights Watch recent report, how the international community has responded so far, and the human rights record of Prince Mohammed bin Salman since he ascended the throne in 2015. 

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no bull, and the aftermath.

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In Saudi Arabia, particularly under MBS, the abuses have only increased and he's really

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only become more emboldened over the last few years. You know, I do believe that the absence

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of accountability and justice for past abuses, you know, has emboldened MBS and Saudi authorities

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and then there is a deep need for accountability for these abuses along the Saudi Yemen border

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and accountability for historic abuses as well because MBS is very young, he's only 38 years

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old. I think there's every reason to expect that he's going to be in power for many years

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if not decades to come and if the human rights situation in the country has deteriorated

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so much under such a short period of time in which he's come to power, you know, it's

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terrifying to think what may be to come in the future.

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I'm Anna Hickey, Associate Editor of Communications for LawFair and this is the LawFair Podcast,

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September 26, 2023. On August 21, the Human Rights Watch released a report detailing systematic

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abuses of Ethiopian migrants and asylum seekers at the Saudi Arabia Yemen border. Researchers

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interviewed dozens of Ethiopian migrants and asylum seekers and found that Saudi border

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guards had used explosive weapons on them in shot migrants at close range. I sat down

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with Joey Shay, a researcher in the Middle East in North Africa Division of Human Rights

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Watch who investigates human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

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We discussed the Human Rights Watch recent report, how the international community has

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responded so far and the human rights record of Prince Mohammed bin Salman since he ascended

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