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The Lawfare Podcast

A Conversation on Domestic Intelligence with Kenneth Wainstein

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2023

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

On September 19, Under Secretary for Intelligence and Analysis at the Department of Homeland Security, Kenneth Wainstein, gave a speech at the Brookings Institution on the current threat environment and the role of the Department of Homeland Security's Intelligence and Analysis Office (I&A) in confronting it. Following the speech, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes and Wainstein sat down for a Q&A, both between them and with the live audience at Falk Auditorium at the Brookings Institution. It's a wide-ranging conversation about the lessons of 9/11, how we seem to have forgotten them in certain respects, current congressional efforts to rein in I&A’s intelligence-gathering activities domestically, and the post-Jan. 6 need for those authorities.

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1:03.7

We can't and don't just monitor the internet, just snooping around into people's private

1:10.5

conversations. What we can do in terms of collecting, viewing and collecting is focusing on those

1:19.5

communications that relate to a homeland threat to one of our missions. So we can only

1:24.1

collect something if it relates to one of our missions and our missions can be protection

1:29.7

of critical infrastructure, etc. or protection against cyber threats or protection against

1:37.7

domestic terrorism. So we're limited in that respect.

1:42.7

I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast September 27th, 2023. On September 19th,

1:53.1

DHS Undersecretary for Intelligence and Analysis Kenneth Waynestein gave a speech at the Brookings

2:00.3

Institution on the current threat environment and the role of the Department of Homeland

2:06.7

Securities Intelligence and Analysis Office in confronting it. Following the speech, Waynestein

2:14.7

and I sat down for a Q&A, both between us and with the live audience at Brookings's

2:22.8

Falk Auditorium. It's a wide-ranging conversation about the lessons of 9-11, how we seem to

2:31.4

have forgotten them in certain respects, current congressional efforts to reign in INA's

2:39.4

intelligence gathering activities domestically and the post-January 6th need for those

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