I'm Jonathan Capehart and this is a special Cape Up.

This past weekend we celebrated the birthday of America at a time when the history of America and its founding is being debated and denied,

which is why we're bringing back the conversation I had with Ty Sigily.

He's the retired Army Brigadier General and Professor

Emeritus of History at West Point, whose compelling book, Robert E. Lee and Me, a southerners

reckoning with the myth of the lost cause, is a great antidote to the anti-critical race theory

hysteria gripping the Republican Party. After all, a sedgely reminds us.

This myth of the law's cause is still infecting our nation.

It's in our DNA.

You know, racism is the virus in the American dirt.

It's our eternal pandemic.

And until we are honest about it, we are never going to get over this.

Here are the rest of this compelling conversation right now.

Ty Sijerly, thank you so much for coming to the podcast.

Oh, Jonathan, my absolute pleasure to be here.

Thank you for inviting me.

I found out about your book.

Your book has been out for more than a

year now, right? No, no. It came out at the end of January this year. Oh, the end of January this year,

because I got an email from Ron Chernow, who is the Pulitzer Prize winning author of biographies on

Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, the latest one, Grant.

And he sent me an email and he said, you must read.

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