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Welcome to Talking Fed's One-on-one, deep-dive discussions with national figures

about the most fascinating and consequential issues defining our culture and shaping our lives.

I'm your host, Harry Littman.

When the full accounting of Trump's degradation of democracy is told, it will focus, first and foremost, on the Department of Justice, which the administration has hollowed out and utterly subverted.

Now, two of the country's most prominent investigative reporters have written what promises to be an authoritative account of the Department of Justice over its most tumultuous years, from erosion in Trump 1.0 to a restoration period under Biden and Merrick Garland to the bottom falling out with the second

Trump administration. It's a riveting read and to lovers of the rule of law and the

Department of Justice, an infuriating one. I'm really happy to welcome the books co-authors

in I think their first discussion of the

Certain to Be bestseller, Injustice, welcome Carol Lennox and Aaron Davis.

Carol is MSNBC's senior investigative correspondent.

Before moving to the network this summer, she spent 25 years at the Washington Post,

where she won five, count them five, Pulitzer Prizes. This is her fourth book, and I'm glad to say

the second we've covered on Talking Feds. Carol, thanks so much for joining us to talk about injustice.

Delighted to be here, you know.

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