Democracy on ICE
Talking Feds
Harry Litman
4.8 • 4.5K Ratings
🗓️ 3 November 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Talking Feds, a roundtable that brings together prominent former federal officials and special guests for dynamic discussion of the most important political and legal topics of the day. |
| 0:18.7 | I'm Harry Littman. Street showdowns with federal agents have |
| 0:23.3 | intensified in Illinois, where a judge took a top border patrol official to task for |
| 0:29.8 | repeatedly violating her orders against excessive use of force, including on journalists and |
| 0:36.5 | religious figures. Meanwhile, Trump continues to make |
| 0:40.5 | noise about upping the ante by sending in military forces. But he's been saying that for months, |
| 0:47.3 | and he's clearly reticent to take that ugly step. And yet, the administration has taken any |
| 0:53.8 | number of steps that potentially could lay the |
| 0:56.7 | groundwork for interference with next year's midterm elections. Trump, this term, has swapped out a series |
| 1:03.7 | of key personnel who resisted his coup efforts last time around, leaving him with a far stronger hand to foment chaos and potentially |
| 1:13.6 | change election results. It's not too early to cast a level eye on democracy's ability to preserve itself, |
| 1:22.0 | which would depend ultimately on the resistance of the people. But first come a handful of elections tomorrow that have important consequences in themselves |
| 1:32.8 | and also may serve as bellwethers for the prospects of a definitive rejection of Trump's autocratic agenda in 2026. |
| 1:42.7 | To dig into the increasingly out-of-control federal presence in Chicago and |
| 1:47.4 | elsewhere, the upcoming elections, and the warning signs that Trump may try to interfere with |
| 1:53.6 | the midterms, I'm very pleased to welcome. David Graham, Dave is a staff writer at the Atlantic, |
| 2:00.5 | he led the magazine celebrated reporting on Project |
| 2:03.6 | 2025, which turned into his first book, The Project. Previously, he won the Toner Prize for |
| 2:10.8 | Excellence in National Political Reporting for his coverage of the 2020 presidential election. It's his first time on talking feds. |
| 2:19.3 | Welcome, David. |
| 2:20.3 | Thank you. |
| 2:21.3 | Katie Fang, a stalwart, not her first time, |
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