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Talking Feds

Democracy on ICE

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Politics, Government

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Harry sits down with David A. Graham, Katie Phang, and Maya Wiley to discuss federal agents' on-the-ground escalations and the courts' efforts to rein them in. They then move to the early warnings that Trump may interfere in next year’s midterms before ending with a quick look at some of tomorrow's critical elections. The overlapping question that criss-crosses all 3 topics: how can Americans band together to protect the democracy, and especially to blunt the threat of a far more systematic attempt by Trump than the last time around to interfere in the elections. Mentioned in this episode: Amie Barrodale’s Supreme Court satire:  https://www.theparisreview.org/fiction/8383/crystal-palace-amie-barrodale David’s piece in the Atlantic:  https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/12/2026-midterms-trump-threat/684615/ Maya’s MSNBC piece:   https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-election-monitors-california-new-jersey-legal-rcna240313 Katie’s YouTube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@katiephangnews Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Talking Feds, a roundtable that brings together prominent former federal officials and special guests for dynamic discussion of the most important political and legal topics of the day.

0:18.7

I'm Harry Littman. Street showdowns with federal agents have

0:23.3

intensified in Illinois, where a judge took a top border patrol official to task for

0:29.8

repeatedly violating her orders against excessive use of force, including on journalists and

0:36.5

religious figures. Meanwhile, Trump continues to make

0:40.5

noise about upping the ante by sending in military forces. But he's been saying that for months,

0:47.3

and he's clearly reticent to take that ugly step. And yet, the administration has taken any

0:53.8

number of steps that potentially could lay the

0:56.7

groundwork for interference with next year's midterm elections. Trump, this term, has swapped out a series

1:03.7

of key personnel who resisted his coup efforts last time around, leaving him with a far stronger hand to foment chaos and potentially

1:13.6

change election results. It's not too early to cast a level eye on democracy's ability to preserve itself,

1:22.0

which would depend ultimately on the resistance of the people. But first come a handful of elections tomorrow that have important consequences in themselves

1:32.8

and also may serve as bellwethers for the prospects of a definitive rejection of Trump's autocratic agenda in 2026.

1:42.7

To dig into the increasingly out-of-control federal presence in Chicago and

1:47.4

elsewhere, the upcoming elections, and the warning signs that Trump may try to interfere with

1:53.6

the midterms, I'm very pleased to welcome. David Graham, Dave is a staff writer at the Atlantic,

2:00.5

he led the magazine celebrated reporting on Project

2:03.6

2025, which turned into his first book, The Project. Previously, he won the Toner Prize for

2:10.8

Excellence in National Political Reporting for his coverage of the 2020 presidential election. It's his first time on talking feds.

2:19.3

Welcome, David.

2:20.3

Thank you.

2:21.3

Katie Fang, a stalwart, not her first time,

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