Untangling Trump’s Tariff Logic (Robert Wright & Samuel Hammond)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

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4.7 • 618 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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0:28 Sam's theory of (some of) Trump's tariffs 18:09 The bad scenario and the less bad scenario 22:58 Scott Bessent's radicalism 25:58 Will Trump display the art of the deal? 28:57 China's trade-war strengths 31:48 An intentional end to American hegemony? 36:10 Sam’s defense of chip restrictions 40:28 Heading into Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Samuel Hammond (Foundation for American Innovation, https://www.secondbest.ca/). Recorded April 14, 2025.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast.
0:29.0	Hi, Sam.
0:30.8	Hey, Bob.
0:31.9	How you doing?
0:33.9	Pretty good.
0:36.0	Well, I'm glad to hear that.
0:37.4	Let me introduce us. I'm glad to hear that.
0:38.1	Let me introduce us.
0:43.1	I'm Robert Wright, editor-in-chief of the non-zero newsletter, and head of the entire non-zero media empire, which also includes this podcast, a non-zero podcast.
0:47.5	You are Samuel Hammond.
0:49.2	You are chief economist at the Foundation for American Innovation, which I guess means you get to boss around
0:56.5	the legions of other economists at the Foundation of American.
1:00.8	One and the only still.
1:02.7	The one and only.
1:04.0	Well, see, last time we talked, you were a senior economist at the Niskanem Center.
1:09.3	I asked if they were a junior economist, and commendably, you told me the truth.
1:13.1	No, you were the only economist.
1:15.0	And now it turns out you're the chief and there's no...
1:17.4	Yeah, there's a good fundraising year.
1:22.5	Okay.
1:24.0	So anyway, but you still have an affiliation in Niskanin, right?
1:28.2	Yeah, indeed.
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