How to Use Mindfulness to Beat Depression with Dr. Zindel Segal

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Being Well

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

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🗓️ 3 January 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of Being Well, Dr. Rick and Forrest Hanson talk with Dr. Zindel Segal about Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy (MBCT), an eight-week group therapy program designed to help those who suffer from chronic unhappiness and prevent relapse after episodes of severe clinical depression. About our Guest: Dr. Segal is a Professor of Psychology at the University of Toronto at Scarborough, and one of the creators of MBCT. He specializes in mood disorders, particularly depression, and has had an enormous influence on the clinical adoption of mindfulness-based practices and their addition to more traditional forms of cognitive therapy. Watch the Episode: Prefer watching video? You can watch this episode on YouTube. Support the Podcast: We're now on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 2:00: Origins of MBCT 4:30: Why Segal prioritized studying mindfulness as an intervention to depression 7:10: Comparing MBCT with traditional CBT 10:20: What about depression makes us more reactive to thoughts and feelings? 13:15: Mindfulness of sadness vs direct experience 18:35: MBCT practices explained 23:10: Three minute breathing space exercise 31:00: Attentional control training 33:45: Managing feelings of inadequacy 39:00: Motivation and implicit compassion 43:15: Ongoing practices after the MBCT course 45:45: Creating access to mindfulness resources 48:15: Recap From Dr. Hanson: The Foundations of Well-Being brings together the lessons of a lifetime of practice into one year-long online program. Podcast listeners can use the code BEINGWELL25 at checkout for an additional 25% off! Please don't hesitate to apply for a scholarship if you're in need. Sponsors: Join over a million people using BetterHelp, the world’s largest online counseling platform. Visit betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month! Want to sleep better? Try the legendary Calm app! Visit calm.com/beingwell for 40% off a premium subscription. Connect with the show: Subscribe on iTunes Follow Forrest on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow Forrest on Instagram Follow Rick on Facebook Follow Forrest on Facebook Visit Forrest's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Being Well, I'm Forest Hanson.
0:10.3	If you're new to the podcast, this is where we explore the practical science of lasting
0:14.4	well-being.
0:15.4	And if you've listened before, welcome back.
0:17.5	I'm joined today as usual by Dr. Rick Hanson, Rick is a clinical psychologist and a best
0:22.0	selling author.
0:23.0	And he's also my dad, so dad, how are you doing today?
0:26.2	Most excellent.
0:27.2	I'm looking forward to this.
0:28.5	Yeah, today we're very excited to be joined by a very special guest, a clinical psychologist
0:33.7	and a researcher who has had an enormous influence on the adoption of mindfulness-based practices
0:40.1	in therapy, Dr. Zindl Siegel.
0:42.7	Dr. Siegel is a distinguished professor of psychology at the University of Toronto Scarborough
0:47.8	and one of the creators of mindfulness-based cognitive therapy, or MBCT, alongside Dr.
0:52.5	John T. Stale and Mark Williams.
0:55.1	He specializes in mood disorders, particularly depression, and has had a enormous influence
1:00.2	truly on the clinical adoption of mindfulness-based approaches and their addition to more conventional
1:05.0	forms of cognitive therapy.
1:07.1	So Zindl, it's great to have you with us today.
1:09.1	How are you doing?
1:10.1	I'm good.
1:11.1	It's a real pleasure.
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