where did we get this memo of like you have to juggle it all? It's like, well, what does it look like

to juggle one ball at a time? Doesn't mean you only do one thing or only in one avenue. But when you're

there, can you learn to be present with that one ball?

Welcome back. We are with the amazing Hannah Brinter today. If you heard her on Smart Girl Summer, you have a little taste already of what we're going to talk about. What does it look like to unplug? What does it look like to get your life back? What does it look like to get control over this crazy phone addiction that we all have?

Now, don't worry. I'm not going to tell you to throw your phone out the window. I love my phone.

You'd have to pry it out of my cold dead hands. But I also believe that we want to be smart,

we want to be strategic, because we are all working to

live the life God has for us. And Hannah is going to help us today. And without further ado,

let's talk to my good friend Hannah. Hannah, you were just on the show, Smart Girl Summer.

Now, for you, it's brilliant girl fall. I don't know. I just made that up.

But we have a lot to talk about.

We got into it in summer.

Now you actually get to talk about the unplugged hours, your new book, you're here.

You're plugging in a lot to promote this book, which that must feel weird.

It does feel weird because it's like literally the only thing I want to do right now is power down,

but I'm trying to be very intentional with like the days and the terms of like come quitting time.

I am off the phone.

That's great.

Okay.

Let's talk about the before and after. What led up to you going,

I'm feeling everything, I felt nothing, it was too much. What did that look like? Yeah, I think that, you know, we're coming to this tipping point for a lot of us that have been online and connected

in this way for more than a decade,

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