What's a kind of pain or suffering that doesn't freak you out?

And this is when you're thinking about starting a business or volunteering or choosing a career.

I have found that most people, there's some kind of pain or suffering that they're comfortable

enough around that they don't add to the pain or suffering when they're with it.

There are people who are so overwhelmed by other people's

anxiety. They should not be around people whose primary suffering is anxiety because your

presence and your ability to not be surprised or overwhelmed by that particular problem or struggle

is this amazing strength that you could bring.

Hey, else, Chase, welcome to a new episode of the show.

Today's episode features Kelly McGonigal.

Kelly, I first became aware of her work when she wrote in detail about stress.

I caught my attention.

Since then, I've dug into her work and know she is a health

psychologist at Stanford specializes in, I would underscore it as the broad topic of the relationship

between the mind and the body. If you know anything about my personal beliefs or the beliefs

of the show, here we've been tracking the relationship between the mind and the body for

more than a decade. And Kelly wanted to have her on the show because she's the best-selling

author of a number of works. Again, the one that I was originally familiar with, the upside of

stress. She'd written one before that about willpower and her latest book, which we talk a little

bit about, we talk about all these books in the show,

but I'm particularly interested in the joy of movement,

her new book, which underscores our,

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