we do have a really immediate issue here in the United States of there's another, I mean, it's almost, it's March now, right, when this is airing. So we're, we're like a few months out, quite a few months out until November from March at this point. And there's going to be a lot more authoritarianism between then and now. Yes, yes, exactly. And even if Democrats do win them in terms, there's going to be other forms of executive power grab that Congress doesn't have control over.

There's going to be decisions to collaborate or to resist from corporations, from universities, law firms, civil society groups. There are going to be people who are going to be motivated to go to protests and might try to stage actions in state legislatures. Like, there are all sorts of different arenas

that can help determine the outcome.

And no one is as significant

as the result of the midterm election.

Like, I agree with you.

If you're running for Senate in a red state

and your goal is to stop Trump from being authoritarian,

do what you think,

based on the context of your state,

is most likely to win.

Hello, welcome. Wise is happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

We are now on the second year of Donald Trump's second term,

and I think the best thing that could be said is that he has not yet succeeded in completely destroying the American Constitutional order

and replacing a Democratic Republic with a presidentialist dictatorship.

That's the project. It's the ongoing project, but it has not yet been successful. It's been more

successful than I would like. It's moved in that direction more than or about, I think, in the

ways that I feared. But I would say at this point, the sort of forces on each side are kind of

an equipoise. It feels to me like there's a kind of, not a stalemate,

but a draw on the terrain run right now. Partly that's because Donald Trump is incredibly

unpopular, partly is that we've seen real civic resistance rise up in response to some of the

most egregious, cruel, and violent overreaches of the government,

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