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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

How to Start a Psych Medication IV

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Alternative Health, Medicine, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7524 Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Ziprasidone and quetiapine. One goes better fast, one slow. Also the mystery of ghost pills, and a research update on pramipexole.

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Published On: 09/08/2025

Duration: 13 minutes, 47 seconds

Chris Aiken, MD and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

Should you titrate antipsychotic slowly or just get it over with and push the dose up?

0:04.9

The answer depends on which one you're using.

0:07.9

Plus, a research update on Primapexol in treatment-resistant depression.

0:15.4

Welcome to the Carlet Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:21.0

I'm Chris Aiken, the editor-in-chief of the Carlott Psychiatry Report.

0:24.7

And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psych MP, and a dedicated reader of every issue.

0:32.1

Two antipsychotics that have always confused me are quittapine and zeprazidone. These two cause a lot of problems when I'm

0:40.2

starting them, sedation, dizziness, hypotension. So the question is, should I raise them slowly,

0:47.6

or does that just drag out the pain, like slowly going into the cold water of the pool one inch at a time?

0:53.8

The answer is different for each of them.

0:56.6

With zeprazadone, geodon, you want to titrate rapidly. Paradoxically, patients tend to tolerate

1:03.3

suprasadone better in the higher dose range. Several studies found that patients stuck with

1:09.2

zeprazadone longer if they started it at a high dose,

1:13.6

like 120 to 160 milligrams, than if they started it at a low dose, like 40 to 80.

1:20.6

On a similar note, many clinicians find it easier to tolerate suprasidone if they just raise it up quickly, and that strategy has

1:28.8

also proven successful in clinical trials. Here's how to titrate suprasidone in mania and schizophrenia.

1:36.2

Start with 40 milligrams twice daily with a fulmule, and raise the titrate to the treating dose of 120 to 160 milligrams by the third day of treatment.

1:50.0

So basically get it up there to the full dose within three days.

1:54.6

Quatyapine, that's a different story.

1:57.1

Faster titration is less tolerable here.

1:59.9

It brings higher risks of sedation, dizziness, agitation,

2:04.1

and other side effects. That conclusion is from a 2019 analysis of 18 studies that compared

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