What do we do if somebody, like a friend is going through a hard time and we don't want to

shirk our responsibility? Well, one of the verses that kept tripping me up around this and

making me feel maybe boundaries aren't appropriate for a Christian woman and that is, that was a

mistake in my thinking. But one of the verses that kept tripping me up was Jesus modeled to lay down

his life for his births and instructs us, you know, it's beautiful to lay down your life for a

friend and it is. However, we must remember Jesus laid down his life for a high and holy purpose.

He did not lay down his life to enable bad behavior to continue.

You're listening to She, with Jordan Lee Dooley, a personal development podcast for the

everyday woman. Come invited, leave ignited. Here's your host, Jordan Lee Dooley.

Hey Lisa, welcome back to Sheet. Well, thank you Jordan, it's always so fun to talk with you.

It's so fun, you guys. If you haven't heard Lisa's first episode on forgiveness on this podcast,

be sure to give it a listen, because that one was so good. But today we're going to talk about

another topic that I think is super relevant and important. But before we do, Lisa, can you tell

us a little of your background just for those who may have not heard your first episode or may not

be familiar with you? And also why you decided to write a book on boundaries? Yeah, well, I was married

30 years and experienced probably the last 10 years of my marriage, a lot of relational trauma,

heartbreak, and the trail. And it was just probably the most, I wouldn't say probably, I would say

it was the most devastating relationship breakup that I have ever experienced in my life. And so

and I call it the death of my marriage. So that happened. And when I was no longer in a marriage

to work on, I started working with my counselor on me. And what was something that I really

personally needed to address in my life and learn to get better with? And boundaries rose to

the top immediately. And I think one of the reasons that boundaries became something that I needed

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