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Hey, what's up? My friend, Grant Baldwin here. Welcome back to the speaker lab podcast. I hope

you're doing well. Hope you're having a great day. And I hope you're continuing to book speaking engagements and make a little dent in the world. Hey, as I've often told you before, if you are looking for a step-by-step plan and system on how to find a book speaking engagements, I would encourage you to attend one of our upcoming free training where we are teaching you a step-by-step plan on exactly how to do that. So if you want to know how to do that, you definitely want to stop by free speakerworkshop.com. Again, that is free speakerworkshop.com. And again, we're going to walk you through exactly how you can find and book speaking engagements, how you can share your message with the world and how you can make an income and an impact. All right. Hey, let's get to today's guest. Today we're talking with my good buddy Chris Ducker, my brother from another mother. And Chris actually has a brand new book out that I highly recommend and encourage you to check out. It's the book called Rise of the Eupreneur. It's out now. Definitely stop by and check that out. In our conversation today, Chris and I, we talk about how to position yourself as an expert. We talk about how to overcome imposter syndrome. This is something that a lot of speakers, a lot of entrepreneurs and youpreneurs, as Chris would call them, deal with. And so we talk about how to deal with that. We talk also about how to build your personal brand beyond just speaking. So I know because you're listening, you're interested in speaking, but I know from talking with a lot of people that you're probably also

interested in building your business beyond the stage. So that may be creating a course,

creating a podcast, creating a blog, building an email list, could be coaching or consulting any number

of products or services that you may be looking at, maybe even publishing a book like Chris

has done here. So a lot of great information here with Chris. So definitely tune in,

lock in, and let's get right into it. Hope you enjoy this conversation with my buddy Chris Ducker.

So my friends, hey today, hanging out with my good buddy, Chris Ducker, who is one of the

baldest and most beautiful men that I know. How are you today, dude? I'm so good. And for somebody as beautiful and as bald as you, to say that about me, I just feel so very, very blessed right now. Well, Chris and I've been longtime friends and hung out together a lot and got a lot of admiration and respect for him, so I appreciate you hanging out with us today. So you got a new book that we're going to be touching on a little bit today that is now out called Rise of the Eupreneur. So I want to dig into that because I know that there's a lot there for speakers and I know that you also have done a lot of speaking as well. So let's start by talking about from a before before we get into the Eupenur side of things,

historically, let's kind of backtrack. What kind of speaking have you done in the past and

how is speaking kind of fit into your business? Well, I mean, I guess really my speaking kind of

began with things like seminars and workshops right the way back in the UK. I was in the

publishing and the event organization space in the UK for about a decade.

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