Hey everyone and welcome to our throwback episode. In our throwback episodes, we are reintroducing you to some of our most popular episodes.

This is great for new listeners who want to learn more about the work we've done in the past, and it's a great refresher if you've been a listener for a long time.

Enjoy. We are here today with Natasia Malai Hollow and she is CEO of Wiser,

but she is a serial entrepreneur, but very, very successful. So we're really happy to have you

here today. So Natasia, thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. Excited to be here.

So let's start off by telling the audience a little bit about your entrepreneurial journey. Sure.

So my journey started.

I actually, you know, I never planned on being an entrepreneur and I was actually on a panel

earlier this week in Chicago and they asked me the same question.

I said, you know, that entrepreneurship kind of found me.

I was in, I graduated with the legal studies background major when I was an undergrad at

Berkeley and then worked in corporate law for three and a half years.

Actually corporate and intellectual property law. And it kind of

fell in love with IP and the tech side by being in, you know, patents and things like that. So

ended up going to Georgetown for law school. And then my first year came up with this idea for a

social network, you know, an app to find local

information and kind of became obsessed with the idea.

And so after my first year, decided to, you know, I couldn't do both.

I couldn't be a law student.

I couldn't be an entrepreneur.

And so I chose being an entrepreneur.

I raised a little bit of money and that was enough for me to say, okay, I'm like leaving law

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