How to Matter—To Yourself and Others (Jennifer B. Wallace)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Lemonada Media

Education, Self-improvement

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Journalist and bestselling author Jennifer B. Wallace shares the key ingredients to feeling like you matter, and to making others feel like they matter, too. She covers my favorite stories and stats from her new book Mattering, along with the practical tools, habits, and practices she leans on in her own life. We talk about the importance of putting a bow on things; how we can use the mattering lens to approach life transitions; the benefits of ego extension; and something called “the beautiful mess effect.” Wallace also shares how she’s approached what might be the hardest but most profound part of this, which is figuring out: How do I matter to myself? For the show notes, head to my Substack. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Lemonada.
0:06.1	Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread.
0:09.5	Today I'm talking to the award-winning journalist and best-selling author, Jennifer B. Wallace.
0:18.4	Hey there, it's Julia Louis Dreyfus.
0:21.2	I'm back with a new season of Wiser Than Me, the show where I sit down with remarkable older
0:27.4	women and soak up their stories, their humor, and their hard-earned wisdom.
0:33.4	Every conversation leaves me a little smarter and definitely more inspired.
0:38.3	And yes, I'm still calling my 91-year-old mom, Judy, to get her take on it all.
0:45.0	Wiser than me from Lemonada Media is out now, wherever you get your podcasts.
1:01.2	Hey, it's me, Steve Burns, and I'm so glad you're here because you and I go way back, right?
1:02.2	Yeah.
1:03.6	And look at us now.
1:04.5	Like, we're all grown up.
1:12.0	We've got this new podcast where we talk about all this grown up stuff and there's special guests like Jamie Lee Curtis and Bill Nye,
1:14.2	but for the most part, it's about you.
1:16.2	I mean, it's always been about you.
1:20.9	From Lemonada Media, alive with Steve Burns is coming September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts, or you can watch every episode on YouTube.
1:39.7	Hi, it's Elise Loonan, host of Pulling the Thread.
1:45.9	On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here.
1:51.5	My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness so that we might all collectively learn and grow.
1:56.9	Here is today's guest, Jennifer B. Wallace, on the practice of mattering to yourself.
2:03.1	That is also, other than asking for help, it is mattering to myself that has become a profound
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