When we talk about integrity, I want to be really clear that I don't mean it in a moralizing sense.

I mean it as in structural integrity.

If you have a car or an airplane that is in structural integrity, all its parts are working in alignment,

and it can fly or it can carry people around.

If its parts aren't in alignment, if it's out of structural

integrity, it breaks down. Not because it's bad, just because that's the physics of it. Same thing

with a human being. If we can live a life that is in structural integrity with what we feel most

deeply, everything works quite well. And if we are living a life that

is not in alignment with what we feel at the deepest level, everything starts to go wrong to

alert us that there's a problem so we can look at it and fix it. Dr. Martha Beck, welcome.

Oh, thank you. It's so good to be here. For people who are watching, they can see the

enormous smile on my face, but for folks listening, I have an enormous smile on my face because

I'm with the great Marty Beck, who has contributed so much to the field of sociology and psychology.

Tell us a little bit about your background. For folks who are new to your work. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, you can go a number of different directions.

I was, I grew up super-doper Mormon in the heart of Mormon country in Utah and then went off

at 17 to Harvard, which was not at all like Utah.

And got my B.A.

And my B.A.

M.A. and my Ph.D. there Also got married, had three kids. And the middle one had

Down syndrome, which was a really interesting thing to have a child with Down syndrome while getting

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