This is Movers and Shakers, where we interview the upcoming generation of Make It Happen Multifamily

Investors to share their story.

Welcome to the Movers and Shakers podcast.

My name is Gino Barbara, co-founder of Jake and Gino, multifamily investor, educator, father,

mentor, and I'm joined by my co-host Joshua Ryan Ruzin, the community

director of Jake and Gino. Josh, how are you doing today, bro? Gino, you know what, man,

I'm feeling good. I got a haircut yesterday, look good, feel good, do good, and I'm excited. We have a

ton of upcoming events. You know, we have the manage right coming up next month in Knoxville.

Then we have a money mixer in Omaha and we have a buy right boot camp in Jacksonville,

Florida. And then we're bringing it home with multifamily mastery four. So just getting to see my

favorite people in the Jake and Gino community. Gino, what's going on with you, my friend?

Well, Josh, we closed on 85 units a couple weeks ago.

We've got to get 50 units on the contract now. It's a small deals. Small deals are going to make us

rich, right? When it gets back to, you know, I guess what's the word I'm looking for, Josh?

When time stabilized a little bit, right now the the real meat, the real values in these smaller deals, because these private equities and all these big, big companies are going for these 100 units

plus, and they're getting pushed. Those cap rates are really compressed a lot. So everyone out there

doesn't matter about the size. It matters about the quality of the deal. That's the important thing.

I think we get into the ego and saying, I just close an 150 unit deal. I'd rather buy a 30 or 40 unit deal that's crushing it and cash rolling like crazy.

And I'd be able to refire that deal.

So think big, start small.

And as far as our students, we're over 16,000 units, over a billion dollars closed with our students.

It's amazing, you know, the growth that we've had in the last three or four years.

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