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I recently heard Amy Poehler say that either you're annoying or boring. You have to pick one.

And I fully think I fall into the annoying camp rather than the boring.

Welcome to how to where we welcome you no matter which camp you fall into.

You know, each week on the show, we talk with a listener about something they're struggling to navigate.

And we bring in an expert

with personal experience to give them guidance. I'm Carveau Wallace. And Amy Polar aside,

if we were to turn back the clock to a young Jesse 30 years ago, I don't think we'd find a kid

who was annoying, excited, maybe, excellent student, absolutely. Enthusiasmastic, for sure. It's funny because these are the

traits we'd all say we'd want to see in our kids. But for Jessie, it felt like she might be

too much. I was just a really, like, passionate kid. And in fourth grade, I just have such a visceral memory of trying out

for the school play and just like closing my eyes and singing this solo so passionately and opening

my eyes and I had a teacher who was laughing at me and that was like my experience throughout my childhood was just, you're just so

enthusiastic. Everything is too much, you know, too loud, too aggressive about your ideas,

interrupting people. Feeling okay about yourself in grade school is hard enough. And it's especially

hard when everyone

around you is always telling you to tone it down.

Even though Jesse's grades were okay, and she was hitting all the academic benchmarks, her

perceptive mom still had a feeling that there was some kind of trouble with her kid.

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