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The Futur with Chris Do

How to Land the Job and Nail the Interview w/ Jule Kim | Ep 388

The Futur with Chris Do

The Futur

Arts, Education, Marketing, Design, Business, Self-improvement

4.9 • 998 Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Chris Do talks with executive coach Jule Kim about why so many professionals can’t land interviews—and how to change that. Jule breaks down how applicant-tracking systems work, the mistakes most people make with their resumes, and her PIRAI framework for telling clear, impactful stories in interviews. What You’ll Learn: How to make your resume pass automated filters Why “spray and pray” job applications don’t work The design mistakes that ruin creative resumes How to use Jule’s PIRAI framework to stand out in interviews Timestamps (00:00) - Intro (02:23) - How ATS systems filter out your resume (05:46) - Why the “spray and pray” approach fails (06:55) - Inside Amazon’s hiring loop and “Raising the Bar” (09:47) - Tailoring your resume like SEO for job descriptions (13:00) - The resume design mistakes that kill your chances (16:39) - Showing authenticity and personality in your application (19:58) - Real story – landing a VC job by leaning into uniqueness (31:28) - Replacing STAR with PIRAI (33:37) - PIRAI example – how automation saved 70% of company time (39:50) - How to answer “Are you a team player?” with specifics (46:39) - Building your story bank and practicing effectively (52:18) - Key takeaways + final thoughts Check out today's guest, Jule Kim: Jule's LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/julekim/⁠ Jule's Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/itsjulekim⁠ Executive Coach Jule Kim : ⁠https://adviceactually.com/⁠ Check out The Futur: Website: ⁠https://www.thefutur.com/⁠ Courses: ⁠https://www.thefutur.com/shop⁠ Linkedin: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-futur/⁠ Podcasts: ⁠https://thefutur.com/podcast⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/thefuturishere/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/theFuturisHere/⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://x.com/thefuturishere⁠ TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thefuturishere⁠ Youtube:⁠https://www.youtube.com/thefuturishere⁠ Check out Chris Do: Website: ⁠https://zaap.bio/thechrisdo⁠ LinkedIn:⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/⁠ Facebook:⁠https://www.facebook.com/BizOfDesign⁠ Instagram:⁠https://www.instagram.com/thechrisdo/⁠ Twitter:⁠https://x.com/thechrisdo⁠ TikTok:⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@thechrisdo⁠ Threads:⁠https://www.threads.net/@thechrisdo⁠ Zaap: ⁠https://zaap.bio/thechrisdo⁠ Clubhouse:⁠https://www.clubhouse.com/@thechrisdo⁠ Behance: ⁠https://www.behance.net/chrisdo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I've seen in my DMs in the last couple of months. So many different people say I have worked in a

0:04.4

year, six months. I haven't worked in two years. Something's going on. So we know it's already,

0:08.8

really hard to get the opportunity where there's a job opening and you think your ideal fit for it.

0:14.2

And no one calls you. Or you actually get the call and you get the interview, but you're so out

0:20.1

of practice, you don't even know what to say. So sometimes you go food bar on the whole thing. So, Jewel's here, Jill Kim, who's a longtime collaborator of ours on the pod and elsewhere. She's a coach, and she's going to share some stories about how she's helped someone who hasn't been able to get any opportunities to land it. So we're talking about how to

0:38.6

land the job interview and how to get it in the first place so you stop bombing.

0:44.5

Joel, welcome to the show. Thank you, Chris. Always fun to do this with you. Thanks for having me.

0:50.9

Okay. Why don't you take us through what you plan on talking about?

0:55.9

So today we're going to be talking about some of the people that I've been coaching over the past couple of years. Now,

1:00.4

I'm an executive coach. Many of you may know this, but what I don't widely advertise as much

1:05.9

is the fact that I literally coach people and prepare people for their interviews. So if you have a job

1:12.2

interview lined up, or even if you're getting ready to get back on the job market and you want

1:17.0

help fixing your resume, you want help positioning yourself correctly, there is a certain approach

1:22.6

to this entire process that I think 99% of you are just not aware of. So you go into it and you just

1:30.8

kind of slap together your resume. Maybe you stress for a couple of weeks or a couple of months.

1:35.6

You don't actually put in the work to fix your resume the way that you want, nor do you

1:41.2

understand even basic things like how your resume is ingested into the systems for most companies.

1:49.0

What ends up happening is that your resume ends up never being seen by anybody human, because it's already been filtered out by the systems that these companies are using, especially if they're going through systems like Indeed

2:01.7

or the other big job tools. So we are going to cover some of just the easy lift, like very

2:09.3

low-hanging fruit that you can fix today just to make sure that your resume at least gets through

2:15.2

that first cut and get some human eyeballs on it,

2:18.3

which is then how you get a chance at landing an interview or at least a phone screen.

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