Do you want to escape the nine to five?

Or do you want the freedom to work when you want, where you want, and with whom you want?

The Art of Passive Income Podcast explores opportunities for you to achieve total freedom so you can live life on your own turns.

And now here is your host, Mark Podolsky, from The Land Geek.

Hey, it's Mark Podolsky, The Land Geek, be their favorite niche real estate website,

The Land Geek.com.

And are you ready to get smarter?

Are you ready to be more referable, more unforgettable,

then tune in for my guest today,

Michael Roderick, who is the CEO of Small Pond Enterprises,

which helps thought givers become thought leaders

by making their brands referable, their messaging memorable, and their ideas unforgettable.

He is also the host of the podcast's Access to Anyone, which shows you how you can get to know

anyone you want to know in business and in life using time-tested relationship-building

principles. We're going to learn all about that. Mike's unique methodology comes from

his own experience of going from being a high school English teacher to a Broadway producer in under two years.

Michael uses Broadway, informed branding techniques to help his clients find their innovative framework and create offers where they get paid for their brains.

Michael Roderick, you're a big deal. Welcome.

Oh, it's so funny.

So, I mean, let's just start with the whole high school teacher thing going Broadway.

Like, that's fascinating.

And then how that leads you to like, you know what, I can make people more preferable.

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