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This week, Unexplained to me, why gas and everything else is so expensive these days.

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eater app.com. She's a previous guest on the show, and she has kindly decided to return. She is a professor of philosophy at UC Riverside, where she studies, among other things, the moral psychology of anger, empathy,

forgiveness, which we're going to talk a little bit about today. That is how I describe who

you are and what you do. How do you describe who you are and what you do when you're at those

fancy philosophy parties?

No, I'm a philosopher. I not only do it for a living, but it's just who I am. That's how I see

the world. That's how I view the world. But also do public stuff. So I'm interested not only

in just teaching an academy, but also sharing all

these thoughts that I come up with with public audiences. So that's why I'm so happy to be with you

again today. Why the interest in forgiveness? Why did that feel like something that like you

actually wanted to study seriously, philosophically? Yeah. I mean, there's a variety of reasons personally and

interpersonally. I mean, I would say that I got interested in anger first. And forgiveness

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