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One of the most frustrating things about the world right now is that it often feels like the most powerful people

are basically edge lords announcing consequential policies by memes and shit posting.

If there's an information war out there, it seems like it's already lost.

But maybe the problem is that we're fighting the wrong battle,

or the right battle in the wrong way. Maybe we're bringing white papers to a GIF fight.

I'm Sean Elling, and this is the gray area.

Today's guest is Callie Lassen. He's a filmmaker, author, magazine editor, and activist.

Lassen founded an anti-consumers magazine called Ad Busters

that used culture jamming and subversion of commercial

and mainstream language and imagery to put forward radical ideas, turning anti-consumerism

into something of an art form. You'll hear that term a few times in this episode, culture

jamming.

It's basically media sabotage, taking a familiar slogan, image, or brand, and remixing it to show what's false, manipulative, or absurd about it.

It's a subversive mix of satire, art, and radical action.

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