Our tendency when we're under stress or in distress is to point and to accuse the other person.

But in this phenomenological intersubjective orbit here,

we have no fucking idea. We are acting and reacting to each other at lightning speeds and to assume that we know this is all you and it's not me is hubris. Greetings and welcome back to another episode of the

relationship school's Smart Couple podcast.

Hello, I'm Jason Gaddis, your host and I'm psyched to be here.

And I've got a co-host coming up here in this episode, Ellen, my wife will be joining me.

And in this episode, I've got Stan Tacken, who is, in my opinion, a pretty world-renowned attachment expert.

And this guy is going to bring the goods for you.

He's got a new book out called We Do. And it's what he's saying,

his most comprehensive book to date. So you're going to want to listen to this one.

If you're new to this podcast, we talk about long-term relationship here

and we talk about the way to get a great long-term relationship is to

look in the mirror and grow. It's kind of that simple. And we offer you

lots of tools, hacks, techniques, and tips on how to have better more fulfilling relationships really with one person that primary

attachment figure your husband or wife your intimate partner and the person that you want to spend a long time with.

Of course, learning these skills gives you better relationships everywhere in your life.

Okay, so we're going to get right to the episode.

I'm not going to waste a lot of time here, but I do want to say that I'm going to do a live

webinar with Stan December 5th at noon Mountain Time and I'd like you to be there.

We're going to talk all about his new book.

In this interview we get into the book a little bit but Ellen and I sort of jump around. We had a couple

listener, podcast listener questions so those of you who were in the smart couple

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