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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That's me.

I'm part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I am here in Vox Media Studios with Tim Armstrong, who is CEO of Oath. It's a new title

for you. Welcome, Tim. Peter, good to see you here. And the former Goldman Sachs building,

85, downtown. Amazing that you guys are here. The office looks spectacular. We're here. There's a

we work upstairs where Goldman used to be. Wow. Things have changed.

Times are changing. One thing that's not changed from the last 20 years, you've been working in

internet media? Yep.

Used to be running sales at Google. You're the first sales guy, first revenue guy at Google.

One of them. Ran AOL forever. Yep.

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