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Let's talk about you, Claire.

Jeffrey, you were editor-in-chief of Mother Jones. That's right. I wanted you on this podcast for a long time. So much I had to fly out here and talk to you. So thanks for doing it. I'm not sure that's true. It is totally true. You can go back and look in your DMs, emails, It's been saying, hey, let's do it, let's do it.

It's been a long time coming.

Now we're doing it.

Many people who listen to this podcast will know what Mother Jones is, but for those who don't, want to give us the two-sentence summary? I mean, it's a non-profit news organization that was a magazine for a long time, was the first actual general interest magazine to be on the web way back.

The publication itself dates back to...

76.

19706.

1976, yes.

We're not as old as the Atlantic.

Yeah, and so we specialize in investigative journalism and politics and, you know, many other things.

So there's a print magazine?

Print magazine.

I can pay to get that. You can. There's a website. There's a website. Free. Yes. Right? And you guys are a left-leaning slash progressive nonprofit. I would say that we are primarily an investigative journalism shop, but we're informed by progressive values, as many muckrakers are.

So you guys, I want to talk about the business model and many other things, but let's talk about business first.

So you guys take advertising, right?

We do.

If I click on that.

Print and digital, yeah.

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