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Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger

How to Change Part Two

Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger

Audacy

Education, Investing, Business, Self-improvement

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2022

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Award-winning Wharton Professor Katy Milkman has devoted her career to the study of behavior change, and this weekend we're rerunning an interview from when she joined us to discuss her book, How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be.

Change comes most readily when you understand what's standing between you and success and tailor your solution to that roadblock. If you want to work out more but find exercise difficult and boring, downloading a goal-setting app probably won't help.

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"Jill on Money" theme music is by Joel Goodman, www.joelgoodman.com.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Jill on Money Show.

0:05.3

It's Sunday, September 4th.

0:07.0

It's Labor Day weekend and we are concluding our summer author series with the second part

0:13.7

of our interview with Katie Milkman.

0:16.0

Katie is the author of How to Change, the science of getting from where you are to where you

0:20.6

want to be.

0:22.5

I think that the way that she weaves together, her research with real life stories, it really

0:28.3

does resonate with me.

0:29.8

So I hope it does for you too.

0:31.5

Here is part two of our interview with Katie Milkman.

0:34.7

One of the things that was very striking to me is this part of the book where you talk

0:40.4

about how people can be intimidated when they hear successes of others.

0:47.3

And I want to tell you, like, I want to get your advice because on this program, we have

0:52.7

people who will contact us, who have a ton of money and we have people who contact

0:57.8

us who have no money.

0:59.5

And often we'll get sort of like a snide remark or someone will write to me and be like,

1:04.4

oh, you only put rich people on the air.

1:05.8

And I always say, well, I don't really care rich people, poor people, like whoever has

1:09.0

a financial question will answer it.

1:11.4

What is it about hearing about someone else's success that makes people feel bad and not

1:19.8

really even think about like, well, that has nothing to do with me like, what is it that

1:22.9

I can do better when I'm talking to these people to make them feel like, hey, it's all

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