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Masters of Scale

How to build your company to last, w/Fiat's John Elkann

Masters of Scale

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Business, Jeff Berman, Startups, Reid Hoffman, Management, Diversity & Inclusion, Mindset, Bob Safian, Entrepreneurship

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2018

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Forget being a unicorn. Learn to be a phoenix. Your company can last 100+ years — but you'll need the resilience to rise and fall, and rise again. Fiat’s chair John Elkann shares the principles that helped the "horseless carriage" company founded by his great-grandfather survive the ups and downs of a century of business — including competitor attacks, leader shakeups, financial crises and more. One key: Resilience. Another: Deciding which company traditions to keep, and which to leave in the past. Featuring cameos from Radio Flyer's Robert Pasin, Cue Ball Ventures' Tony Tjan and ABC Home & Kitchen's Paulette Cole.

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Bob Safian. You've been hearing me as the host of rapid response in this feed for a few years now,

0:07.8

with short newsy interviews alongside the deeper dives of Masters of Scale. Well, I'm excited to share that rapid response is expanding into its own feed.

0:17.0

We'll be putting out shows twice a week, focusing on the urgent issues that business leaders are dealing with in real time.

0:24.8

So search for rapid response in your podcast player

0:28.0

and subscribe to make sure you get all our episodes.

0:31.2

I'll see you on the other side.

0:34.0

One of the first things he made was a little wagon that he used to haul tools around in the workshop.

0:44.0

That's Robert Passen, the CEO radio flyer.

0:49.0

He's talking about his grandfather, Antonio Passen,

0:52.0

who came from a long line of Italian cabinet makers.

0:55.2

He started making little red wagons for his workshop in Chicago, mostly just to cart around

1:00.4

tools, but then he noticed those wagons were selling better than any of

1:04.4

his other products. Like any good entrepreneur, he pivoted. Pretty soon he was

1:09.8

out of the furniture business and in the wagon business.

1:13.0

Come and get your wagons.

1:15.0

America's finest coaster wagon for every boy and every girl.

1:20.0

And that was really the birth of the iconic little red wagon.

1:26.0

From these metal stamped wagons, Antonia grew a family business that remains a heavyweight

1:32.2

and toys a full century later.

1:37.2

We had a year-long celebration of the 100th anniversary.

1:40.4

The Capstone event was a big event that we had here in Chicago.

1:44.0

We brought the world's largest wagon down to Michigan Avenue for a birthday celebration.

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