We all know that entrepreneurship can be a grind. It can be stressful, challenging, and just

plain hard. Some days it feels like the business owns you instead of you owning it. So how

do you regain control of your business so that you have the margin to actually enjoy it?

From the Ramsey Network, this is the Entrez Leadership Podcast where we help business leaders

grow themselves, their teams, and their profits. I'm your host, George Campbell, and in today's

episode we're talking about why having fun in business is part of what keeps you in business,

which connects to our business driver of plan. Our first guest today is Rob Deerdeck. He's an

entrepreneur, actor, producer, reality TV personality, and former professional skateboarder. He's the

founder of Deerdeck Machine, a venture creation studio that, quote, manufactures amazing companies

by systematically fusing art, science, and magic. We talk about how he's managed to keep the

join business while being one of the busiest, most productive entrepreneurs out there. In our

second conversation, I sit down with Ramsey leader Pete Young, and we talk about how we intentionally

use fun to build our team culture here at Ramsey. So let's get to it. As a former skateboarder

myself, 10-year-old George is high-fiving 32-year-old George for getting to talk to the legendary

Rob Deerdeck. Here's our conversation. Rob, it's so good to have you on the podcast. I grew up in

the skateboard world, and it's just an honor to talk with you today. Yes, thank you for having me,

I appreciate it. So you have a storied resume. I mean, just trying to Google all the things Rob Deerdeck

is doing is a tiring, tiring game, but you are among other things, an entrepreneur, actor, producer,

TV personality, former pro skater, venture capitalist. I mean, you're doing a lot, and it's very

impressive. And we're talking about the joy of creation today, which is something you embody as a

person. You're just fun to watch, and you bring a sense of fun to everything you do. So tell me the

story of where this all started. I mean, take us back to a little Rob, maybe 10-11 years old, what

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