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Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

How To Become Less Reactive & Cultivate A Deep Sense Of Calm with Jonny Miller #569

Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Alternative Health, Mental Health

4.810.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Summary

Many of us are living with chronically dysregulated nervous systems, yet we mistake this reactive state for normal. Research suggests that our nervous system acts as a lens through which we experience reality. But when that lens is out of balance, we start to see threats where none exist – and respond in an exaggerated way to everyday situations. Today’s guest believes that by learning to work with our body’s innate wisdom, we can transform not just how we respond to stress, but how we experience life itself. Jonny Miller is the founder of Nervous System Mastery, a 5-week bootcamp where he has taught over a thousand students - from the CEO of a rocket-ship company and burned-out startup founders to busy parents and elite performers - how to cultivate calm, rewire reactivity and restore aliveness. After experiencing profound grief following the loss of his fiancée Sophie, Jonny embarked on a journey to understand how our nervous system shapes every aspect of our lived experience. During this incredible conversation, we discuss: Why anxiety isn’t actually an emotion, but a protective strategy used by the nervous system to shield us from deeper underlying feelings, and the difference between managing emotions and truly feeling them The three core skills of nervous system mastery: interoception (tuning into our internal world), self-regulation and emotional fluidity, and why developing these can transform every part of our lives How emotions themselves typically last just 10 - 20 seconds, but our resistance to feeling them creates what Jonny calls “emotional debt,” which can keep us stuck for weeks, months or even years Why working with the body (a bottom-up approach) can be more effective than trying to ‘think’ our way out of stress, and how it differs from cognitive strategies like reframing How practices like cold exposure can help train us to stop resisting discomfort and allow challenging sensations to move through us naturally Jonny’s reflections on grief are particularly moving. He shares how losing Sophie taught him that emotions – even the most painful ones – carry their own kind of wisdom. At its heart, this episode is about remembering what the body already knows. Jonny shows us that beneath our stress and reactivity lies a deep intelligence, and that when we learn to trust it, we can move through life with more presence, resilience and peace. I hope you enjoy listening. Support the podcast and enjoy Ad-Free episodes. Try FREE for 7 days on Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/feelbetterlivemore. For other podcast platforms go to https://fblm.supercast.com. Thanks to our sponsors: https://thriva.co https://calm.com/livemore https://drinkag1.com/livemore   Show notes https://drchatterjee.com/569 DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or qualified healthcare provider. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

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0:00.0

The phrase that I really like is secure attachment with life, secure attachment with reality.

0:07.0

This idea of coming back to feeling fundamentally at home in our bodies,

0:12.9

creating the conditions of safety so that all parts of our psyche learn to feel inherently safe in the world.

0:20.9

Hey guys, how you doing? I hope you having a good week so far. My name is Dr. Rangan Chatterjee,

0:27.7

and this is my podcast, Feel Better, Live More.

0:33.8

Why is it these days that so many people are feeling stressed, anxious, close to burnout,

0:40.4

and have exaggerated responses to simple everyday situations?

0:45.8

Well, this week's guest thinks this is a natural consequence of the fact that many of us

0:52.1

are walking around each day with overloaded and dysregulated nervous systems.

0:59.2

Johnny Miller is the founder of Nervous System Mastery, a five-week boot camp, where he has taught well over a thousand students, including CEOs, high performers, and busy parents, how to cultivate

1:13.9

calm, rewire reactivity, and restore aliveness. His work combines cutting-edge neuroscience with

1:22.1

practical body-based approaches that help people move from chronic reactivity to intentional living, and you

1:30.3

can see all details at the course homepage, nsmastery.com. After experiencing profound grief

1:39.4

following the death of his fiancée Sophie, Johnny and Bart's on a journey to understand how our nervous

1:46.0

systems shape every aspect of our lived experience. And in this conversation, we discuss why

1:53.4

anxiety isn't actually an emotion, but a protective strategy used by the nervous system to shield

2:00.3

us. The three core skills of nervous system

2:04.2

mastery, inter reception, self-regulation, and emotional fluidity. How emotions themselves

2:11.5

typically last just 10 to 20 seconds, but our resistance to feeling them creates what Johnny calls emotional debt,

2:20.9

why working with the body can be more effective than trying to think our way out of stress,

2:27.8

and how practices like cold exposure can help train us to stop resisting discomfort

2:33.7

and allow challenging sensations to move through us naturally.

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