When women come together, so much change happens.

We show up, we start to get involved, and then we become friends with the people that we're doing it with.

We came to make a change.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to How to Not Lose Your Shit. I'm Katie Paris, the founder of Red

Wine and Blue. Okay, so LaFonda was with me yesterday for this week's interview, but today,

she is out sick and practicing what she preaches. That very strategic thing we call rest. So instead, I am truly delighted to be

joined by Amy Thorstinson, who is the producer of this podcast. It's fun to be here. I mean,

I'm always here like behind the scenes, producing, but it's fun to be here in front of the scenes

on the mic with you. It is fun to have you in front of the scenes on the mic with you.

It is fun to have you in front of the scenes, Amy. Thanks for accepting my invitation. It would

have been lonely here all by my lonesome. Of course. Okay, everybody. So if you are new to the podcast

or new to red wine and blue, we have this amazing program that we call the Red Wine and Blue Network.

It's a community of local grassroots groups all around the country. We literally have these

groups in all 50 states. So basically, it's groups of women meeting up in person to make a

difference where they live. And they have had a huge impact. They have flipped school board seats.

They have increased voter turnout. They have held their local officials accountable. They have

showed up for their communities, whether that's holding fundraiser or doing food drives,

whether that is supporting immigrant families who have lost their breadwinners. Really, truly,

the list goes on

and on, and I'm so proud of every single one of them. So I'm lucky enough to be friends with a lot of

awesome women. Those of you who listen regularly, know that by now. One of those women is Shannon

Watts, the founder of Mom's Demand Action. And in her recent book, Fired Up, she wrote about

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