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How The British Made The Far Right Acceptable / Daniel Trilling

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🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Journalist and author Daniel Trilling returns to This Is Hell! to talk about his new book “If We Tolerate This: How the British establishment made the far right respectable”, published by Pan Macmillan. This is Daniel’s fourth appearance on the show. Daniel was shortlisted for the 2022 and 2023 Orwell Prizes, for his writing focused on homelessness, human rights and politics. His work has also been shortlisted for the Political Book Awards and the Bread and Roses Award for Radical Publishing. Daniel is also an associate lecturer in journalism at London College of Communication, where he helps with the Refugee Journalism Project, a training and mentoring scheme for exiled media workers in the UK, which you can learn more about at refugeejournalismproject.org. Link to purchase Daniel Trilling's new book https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/daniel-trilling/if-we-tolerate-this/9781037411571 We will have new installments of Rotten History and Hangover Cure. We will also be sharing your answers to this week's Question from Hell! from Patreon. Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/thisishell

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Don't you know you better run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run.

0:07.0

Run.

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The water will be.

0:13.0

The water is our power.

0:15.0

The water is. This is hell!

0:23.6

This is hell.

0:42.9

Live from the United States, which resembles 1930s Germany, more than ever, this is hell.

0:52.0

And here in the States, we may not all be following the British elections,

0:56.8

but we should, as they could be a harbinger of things to come in our own November midterms

1:02.7

that are coming up this fall.

1:04.8

As the Guardian reported, with the bulk of results now counted after voting on Thursday,

1:11.9

Labor had lost more than 1,400 representatives from English councils, the local government structures that deliver

1:17.6

many neighborhood services.

1:20.6

Prime Minister Kier Starmor's Labor Party also crashed to defeat the election for the

1:27.3

devolved Parliament of Wales, where it had dominated the country's politics for a century,

1:31.3

and went backwards in representation in the Scottish Parliament as well.

1:35.3

Adding to the panic and labor, the party lost to a series of challengers, including the right-wing populist reform UK party,

1:42.3

which we'll be discussing at length today, and the left-wing

1:45.7

Greens and pro-independence nationalists in Wales and Scotland. As BBC News reported, the results will prompt

1:51.8

debate about what could happen at the next UK general election. This must be held by August 15,

1:59.6

2029, although Prime Minister Kure Starrmer can opt to call an election at any point before this.

2:08.1

The biggest winner in these local elections appears to be the far-right reform party of reactionary populist Nigel Farage, although gains were also made by the Green Party of so-called eco-populous

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