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The Death of Asylum / Tanvi Misra

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🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 107 minutes

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Tanvi Misra returns to discuss her new piece at Jewish Currents, " The Death of Asylum: How centuries of efforts to deny refuge to persecuted people paved way for authoritarianism." "The Moment of Truth" with Jeff Dorchen follows the interview. Check out Tanvi's essay here: https://jewishcurrents.org/the-death-of-asylum Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/thisishell

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0:00.0

The President

0:04.0

The United States

0:07.0

The water This is a power. Big attack!

0:43.5

This... This is hell.

0:51.6

Remember, mass incarceration is human trafficking.

1:02.9

So, yes, this is hell, the concept of asylum, as our guest today points out, is once an asylum seeks foot on a host country's soil, anyone fleeing political, religious, or identity-based

1:08.8

persecution can make a case for asylum, regardless

1:11.7

of if they entered the country legally or not.

1:16.2

Of course, this is a new, modern convention that only came into existence following

1:22.1

World War II during the post-war years of enshrining what was once known as International

1:27.2

Humanitarian Law, which is now in shambles. Except the process. the post-war years of enshrining what was once known as international humanitarian law,

1:28.7

which is now in shambles.

1:31.1

Except the problem with that statement is,

1:33.8

Asylum is not new at all.

1:35.5

In fact, it dates back to the pre-Christian Romans and the Greeks.

1:39.5

Speaking of Christianity and the Christian nationalists here in the United States

1:42.6

that oppose all immigration, including asylum, today's guest cites a past guest on the show nationalists here in the United States that oppose all immigration,

1:44.5

including asylum. Today's guest cites a past guest on the show, many past guests on the show,

1:49.3

but one in particular, journalist and author John Washington, explaining in his 2020 book,

1:54.6

The Dispossessed, A Story of Asylum in the U.S.-Mexican Border and Beyond,

1:57.9

that Roman imperial law transformed this concept of a sacred location

2:02.6

exempt from ordinary threats into a more formalized idea of sanctuary between the walls

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