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How Tech Can Help—or Harm—Racial Justice

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2022

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

From Ferguson to Minneapolis, protests against racist policing have been catalyzed by videos of the brutality being spread on social media. On today’s A Word, Jason Johnson sits down with Dr. Ruha Benjamin to talk about her book, Viral Justice: How We Grow the World We Want, and where social sciences and technology intersect. Guest: Ruha Benjamin You can skip all the ads in A Word by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now at slate.com/awordplus for just $1 for your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is a word, a podcast from Slate. I'm your host, Jason Johnson. We all know what it means

0:09.0

for something to go viral from TikTok dances to moments of heartbreak and violence. But

0:14.1

what are the same structures and tech that make these images go worldwide could also spread

0:19.4

important ideas like, I don't know, justice.

0:23.0

How do we make justice contagious, for example? And so the idea of viral justice is essentially

0:29.3

a micro vision of change.

0:32.3

The author of viral justice, how to create the world we want coming up on a word with me,

0:37.2

Jason Johnson. Stay with us.

0:40.9

Welcome to a word, a podcast about race and politics and everything else. I'm your host,

0:48.0

Jason Johnson. In many ways, America's racial reckoning has been driven by technology.

0:53.4

Before cell phone cameras, decades of false police narratives about killings of black people

0:57.8

went unchallenged by anybody outside of the local community. Without social media, those

1:02.8

deaths were strictly local news if they made the news at all.

1:06.7

Now a whole field of study is devoted to how technology often reinforces racism and how

1:11.9

technology can be harnessed to fight it. One of the leading voices in that field is Ruha

1:16.8

Benjamin. She's a social scientist who specializes in the intersection of race and technology.

1:21.9

Her new book is viral justice, how we grow the world we want. She's also a professor

1:26.8

of African American studies at Princeton University and the founding director of the Ida B. Wells

1:32.1

just data lab. Dr. Ruha Benjamin joins us now. Welcome to a word.

1:36.2

Thank you. I'm thrilled to be here, Jason.

1:38.8

Let's start first with the term viral. What does it actually mean in a technological sense

1:46.0

for an image or a meme or a story to go viral?

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