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Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

How Smartphones Are Rewiring Our Brains, Why Social Media is Eradicating Childhood & The Truth About The Mental Health Epidemic with Jonathan Haidt #456

Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Alternative Health, Mental Health

4.810.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2024

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Summary

Today’s episode is about a topic that I am truly passionate about - the introduction of social media and smartphones into all aspects of our lives - and what impact this is having on us individually, collectively and, perhaps most urgently, what impact is this having on our children.   Jonathan Haidt is arguably one of the worlds’ most eminent psychologists. He is a Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University’s Stern School of Business and the author of 4 best-selling books, including his latest The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness.   In this episode, Jonathan and I explore how the fundamental differences between online and real-world interactions are affecting young people's social, emotional and cognitive development. We discuss why girls face unique risks on social media, from damaged relationships and reputations to harassment, and how gaming and pornography are shaping boys' expectations of relationships. Jonathan also shares some eye-opening data about the link between a decline in teen mental health and the widespread adoption of smartphones and social media. He emphasises the need for collective action to create healthier norms around technology use, both at home and in schools. We dive into practical strategies for parents, including setting clear boundaries and prioritising hobbies and family time. Our conversation also touches on the challenges of navigating technology use in a world where the pace of change has been so fast. Jonathan remains optimistic that we're nearing a tipping point and outlines four key norms we can all adopt with our children—even if they’re already dependent on their phones throughout the day. We also discuss in detail what we believe schools could be doing to help their students have less screen time and the importance of collaborating with other families to support healthier habits. As a parent and a doctor, I'm deeply concerned about the mental health crisis facing our children and young people. But if, as a society, we can come together to raise awareness and take purposeful action, we can create a healthier future for the next generation. I think this is one of the most important conversations that I have ever had on my podcast. Jonathan and I both believe that the rewiring of our children’s brains to be one of the most urgent societal harms that needs addressing.  My hope is that you find this conversation eye opening, enlightening and thought provoking - and I very much hope it prompts you to take action. Buy tickets for my stage tour https://drchatterjee.com/tour Thanks to our sponsors: https://boncharge.com/livemore https://drinkag1.com/livemore Show notes https://drchatterjee.com/456 DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or qualified healthcare provider. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

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0:00.0

Children are programmed to play, and there's a biological purpose for that play. A smartphone is an experience blocker. Once a kid has it, it's so enticing. They're just not going to have many of those experiences that they need to wire up their brains properly. The more you think about it as giving your kid a play-based childhood, instead of just taking away the phone-based childhood,

0:21.0

the easier it's going to be. Hey guys, how you doing? I hope you having a good week so far.

0:26.5

My name is Dr. Rongan Chatterjee, and this is my podcast, Feel Better, Live More.

0:35.2

Today's episode is about a topic that I am truly passionate about, the introduction of social media and smartphones into all aspects of our lives, and what impact this is having on us individually, collectively, and perhaps most urgently, what impact is this having on our children?

0:55.6

Jonathan Haidt is arguably one of the world's most eminent psychologists.

1:00.1

He is a professor of ethical leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business

1:05.2

and the author of four best-selling books, including his latest, The Anxious Generation,

1:11.9

how the great rewiring of childhood is causing an epidemic of mental illness.

1:17.8

In our conversation, Jonathan reveals how the mental health of adolescents in many countries

1:23.5

around the world suddenly deteriorated in the early 2010 after more than a decade of

1:30.3

stability or improvement. And he argues that the rise of smartphone usage among adolescents

1:36.3

and the decline of free play in childhood are the two major causes of this increased mental distress. As teenagers traded in their flip phones for smartphones,

1:48.0

packed with social media apps, and constant access to the internet,

1:52.0

time online soared, while time engaging face-to-face with friends and family plummeted,

1:58.0

and so did their mental health.

2:00.0

Jonathan explains that this profound

2:02.6

shift took place against a backdrop of diminishing childhood freedom, as many parents now

2:08.4

oversupervised every aspect of their children's lives offline and undersupervised them online.

2:15.5

We also explore why this technology seems to affect boys and girls

2:19.1

in different ways, and how its widespread adoption in their lives without appropriate checks,

2:25.9

is rewiring their brains at a crucial time in their development. We also explore the negative

2:31.9

implications of children being asked to do homework in the evenings,

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